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Post by ^K^ on Sept 14, 2006 23:25:22 GMT 6
ok forgive me for any mistakes!haha...
this is only a small section of it for now...it will be updated...
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Stephen Chan Vs Liza Wang
S = Stephen L= no need to mention cos we all know who L is!
S: Today, for my dinner party, I have invited a friend which I extremely admire, Miss Liza Wang. Liza is extremely serious about her work, no matter if its to develop the person or to a matter. In the eyes of people she is a “strong woman”, but how much support is needed?
S: Drink tea! Drink tea! L: Drink tea! Drink tea! S: Hope ah jie will like this southern china cuisine I have chosen. It’s a little spicy L: Is it? Oh! S: Just a little L: A little is OKbecause sometimes afraid of the voice so I seldom eat spicy food S: Is it to protect the voice because of opera? L: A lot of people say spicy food isn’t good for the voice but that’s not the reason for me, it’s because I’m not really fond of eating spicy food S: Oh! That doesn’t matter, it’s just a little spicy L: A little is OK, yes.
Stephen then introduces the Starter to Liza (won’t bother translating this)
L: If I knew earlier, I would have had vegetarian food with you. Because at least once a month I will have vegetarian food. Yes. S: Why one day? L: Nothing in particular. I just hope to clean out the stomach and moreover, subconsciously I feel it’s not so greasy S: Actually, vegetarians are split into old and new groups. If old then the food can be quite greasy. People often think that vegetarian food has to have more oil to make it taste better, but in actual fact that’s not the case because the vegetables are quite fragrant already, just like ah jie and in addition, your skills are great L: No!No! S: Actually, when did people start calling you “Ah Jie”? L: I remember it was during “Over the Rainbow”, the director got the impression that I was sort of the big sister , maybe rather aggressive S: Overbearing? L: Yeah, overbearing! And that’s was from then S: Then everyone followed suit L: Yeah! And I always thought I don’t really have a nickname because a lot of the colleagues have nicknames and I thought about what nickname I should use, and who knew that “ah jie” would become my nickname S: Being called “ah jie” is a good thing! Not everyone has the “big sister” status L: Actually, the first “big sister” has to be Yam Jie, Yam Kim Fai. I’ve heard the opera colleagues call her “ah jie”, and I thought, that’s good, me being called “ah jie” is ok. S: Oh yeah, Yum Jie, and theres also Sin Jie L: Sin Jie has always been called Sin Jie, but Yum Jie a lot of people call her “ah jie” S: Just “ah jie”? L: That’s right! S: So you’re the tv world “ah jie” L: Yeah!thanks! S: Drink up drink up! L: Drink up drink up!hehehe S: In Shanghainese, how would you say “ah jie”? Is there a way? L: Not really as such. Maybe “du a zhe” S: Du a zhe L: Means elder sister. Du A Zhe, A Zhe means big sister S: Du z zheis from Shanghai? L: I am Shanghainese. 100% Shanghainese S: You were born in Shanghai or in HK? L: In Shanghai. I was born in Sung Ming Dao, so my name “Wang Ming Chuen” has the “Ming” word. “Chuen” is a sort of grass. It was my grandfather who gave me this name. My grandfather is a lawyer S: How many siblings do you have? L: I have one older sister and a younger brother S: Are they also called “ming” L: My sister is called Wang Ming Law, also born in Sung Ming S: Also born there L: yes S: So born there, when did you come to HK? L: Around 1956-57 S: How come…Oh you were born in 1947 L: Yes I was born in ‘47 S: That means you were near enough 10yrs old L: Yeah, because my dad came to HK earlier for work, therefore my mum and me and my siblings were in Shanghai, but the weird thing is, I was given to my grandfather and grandmother to look after S: How come there was this arrangement? L: Maybe because my mother couldn’t look after the 3 of us on her own. By her side there was the older daughter and her son, so the one in the middle was given to the grandparents to look after. That’s a usual thing, having a grandchild stay with the elders S: When you came to HK could you speak Cantonese? L: Not at all! Back then because I lived with my grandparentsI wasn’t even allowed to speak Shanghainese, had to speak”ching po” dialect, which is countryside dialect, so when I came to HK language was a barrier. Had to learn to speak Cantonese and also learn to speak English and because in China back then there was no English , so when I came here to look for schooling, it was rather difficult but the most awkward thing was having to face those people that weren’t familiar, meaning my family, my father was separated for so long, then followed on by my mother , my sister and brother because we had no contact, therefore coming to a new place and new home was most difficult. But now thinking back now, I think it was a real challenge, and also a learning experience. I can iron did u know?! My father is quite picky, shirt collars and sleeves needs to be done neatly, even socks have to be ironed! I’ve learnt a lot. S: Could be a very good housewife! L: Yes! Very smart!
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Post by SOLY on Sept 14, 2006 23:46:50 GMT 6
thanks a billion for the translation, haha Why Liza repeated what he said? "Drink tea! Drink tea!" hehe Is that a way of politeness? lol.
I think beside age and langage, Liza n I, have a lot of similar things, lol.
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Post by ^K^ on Sept 15, 2006 4:35:35 GMT 6
haha...politeness yes...
wats ur similarities?
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Post by wendysys on Sept 15, 2006 7:02:01 GMT 6
Good Job, K. hehe....I think "sze yeah" is more like a lawyer than a teacher. S, I want to know about the similarities too.
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Post by *~J~* on Sept 15, 2006 9:01:31 GMT 6
yea, sze yeah is an “apprentice” lawyer
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Post by ^K^ on Sept 15, 2006 16:23:02 GMT 6
ha..ok the sze yeah part is changed..
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Post by SOLY on Sept 15, 2006 16:40:36 GMT 6
similarities?? hehe, few similarities, u will laugh at, lol Ok, first, my blood group is O as well. Although I was born on 26th feb, and Liza, on 28th August, we are the same color "brown" I think forget. U know, kind of astrology "What color u are". Haha, bet u are laughing.
And, my childhood, hehe, u know when I was 9 year old, my parents sent me to France for education. I stayed with my grand mother and aunt... Although my parents went to see me every year there, we still can say it's a separation from the parents, right? hehe. I missed my parents, home... very much, so my parent brought me back to continue my education in French High School in Phnom Penh (Cambodia). Can say it's a bit similar to Liza's childhood? Hehe, coz when I was first in France, saw completly different ppl, they spoke different langage. I had to speak French everyday even at home, to improve fast, to be able to adapt to the class. The first year, I lived with the dictionary, hehe, it was alright becoz in primary school hasn't as much subjects as in high school. In High School, beside Earth Life Science (Biology), Geo/Hist, Chimistry/Physical... that got difficult vocab, I had English and Latin's class as well. Later I needed to learn German as well. It was 12 years ago, hehe. Now my French is better than my Cambodian, aiiii. And I forgot almost all my Latin and German. Never use now.
Can we say that our chilhood is a bit similar here? haha
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Post by wendysys on Sept 15, 2006 20:39:37 GMT 6
haha...ok, S. But you were sent to France for a good purpose though.
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Post by SOLY on Sept 15, 2006 21:09:42 GMT 6
hehe, ya, but I meant, when we were a child, at the same age, about 9 years old, we were separated from the parents, hehe. And met sorta the same situation. hehe But yea, u are right, Liza was sorte of being abandoned by the parents. Poor her.
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Post by SOLY on Sept 16, 2006 8:58:38 GMT 6
I think the interview should have some illustrations; pics or video show. After watching watching it, I wondered what's the point of watching it, haha. Just see Liza moving her hands, and talking in the whole hour. The only word I can understand is "Kar Ying Gor" haha
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Post by Wilairat on Sept 16, 2006 14:59:37 GMT 6
Thanks K!!!! Really interesting...although some conversations we already known about Ah jie but as I think it's not easy to read her interview about her real life...then, I read carefully (every sentences ha...) And wait for continuing he,he
S...right now I know ur similarities lol. he,he Poor Liza lol. like Wednesday child... Um...my blood type also "O" and I was born in "Leo" (she was born on 28th Aug. mind, 16th Sept.) ha.... just kidding
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Post by ^K^ on Sept 16, 2006 18:33:11 GMT 6
blah!theres probs a few mistakes in this one because i cant b bothered goin back to changing things..however, it will do for now
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Career Path:
S: You started off at “Radio Fusion” L: Yes. In 1966 I took part in their first ever training class. Officially signed with them was April 1 1967. How come I remember this date so clearly? It’s because that day is April Fools day. I thought, this is a big decision, deciding your career path April 1, April Fools Day wouldn’t that be a bit weird but then I thought the “Yu” is part of “Yu Lok” (ie, entertainment) then I convinced myself that this date was not bad because the main idea is to entertain the audience so I figured my decision was right. S: Ha! You even thought of it that way! L: Haha, it’s because you will be more aware of your own date! ie, when you entered this career and there wasn’t exactly a choice because the company gives you a date and it was April 1. S: When you first started, how much was the salary? L: Should be HK$600, it was the highest. 600 or 700? I think its HK$600 S: Back then that’s not little L: Yeah! At the same time I also tested for a Stewardess. Because my sister is a stewardess and she introduced me to it, so I tested for it and I was on probation, already went a few times, at the waiting launch and serving the people and say “sorry for the wait, have a cup of tea”, that was what I was doing. That job was HK$700. I remember it was HK$700. So, I gave up that HK$100 and entered this business!ha ha! S: Why? Is it because this business was more attractive, because you like to perform? L: It’s because I don’t want to feel like a maid and serve people. Back then, I thought it was weird, I didn’t realise being a stewardess involved serving people S: Then what did you think being a stewardess involved doing? L: I don’t know! I always thought you just had to look pretty and go on the plane and say “I’m sorry” “is there anything I can help you with”…just that! S: You were special, because back then, not a lot of people would work in HK and then say they want to go to Japan and learn. What made you have this decision? L: Mainly because I had signed with TVB. With Radio Fusion there was an “option”, for a 3 yr contract there was an option and if you don’t sign with them you wouldn’t have the opportunity to go to other tv stations, which resulted in being “frozen” (or not given as many jobs to do…something like this I think) and I thought a year was a long time, so needed to learn something, and just at that time the company and Tung Pao had a cooperationand they had sent Chan Yi Ling to Japan to learn how to dance and also my singing teacher, Li Hau Sheung were really familiar with the people in Tung Pao so I told her I really wanted to go and learn to sing and dance, so she became my guarantor, and so I got the chance to join the training class. They don’t accept normal students, they are sort of like our artistes training classes but they are split into 2 sections, meaning if the artiste is successful they can go film tv dramas, can go become a singer, or join the famous singing and dancing group so it was really a great opportunity to join the training classes. S: Oh, so it was because you signed with TVB, and by doing so you had the opportunity L: Yes, yes S: So the reason you signed with TVB was under which circumstances, more wages or less or more or less the same? L: Wages was no doubt more but I can’t remember how much. But I think its more of the fact there’s a chance to develop the career. Talking about wages, you know yourself that TVB you won’t get that much S: Yes, I know! L: So, even working with TVB for 30 years…obviously comparing to the outside its not comparable, but I think that TVB, not sure what other colleagues think, but I think for 30 years, it has given me the chance to develop. With TVB it’s not about money, but I think it’s enough to maintain life because an artiste’s expenditure is so big, right? S: My expenditure is also very big! Ha-ha L: Yes, an artiste’s expenditure will include things such as promotion, hair and make-up, so the expenses are huge, especially now a lot of attention is put towards promotion and package, so it can’t all be simple.
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Post by SOLY on Sept 16, 2006 19:05:13 GMT 6
ohh, she started this career when she was only 19 years old. umm, 600 HK$, not even 100 US$, but talking the spending power that time, mustn't that bad, lol. Lol, Liza did a right choice, if she was still a stewardess, we couldn't know her. And I couldn't know u guys either, haha. But if she's not back to film drama in 1999, I couldn't know her either, lol. Luckily there's ATE n AMOC.
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Post by Rainbow on Sept 17, 2006 0:09:19 GMT 6
Hi....^K^ Thank you very...very and very much for your translation. You always so kind. Thanks again.
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Post by ^K^ on Sept 18, 2006 18:54:54 GMT 6
J...i thank u for some of the help!hehe...
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Food is served!
L: Is it spicy? S: Very slightly L: Try it first… S: It’s not too spicy is it? L: It’s ok, can handle it S: You can try mines.. L: Yours is also spicy though S: Just a little… L: Is it? Does chillies count as part of the vegetarian stage? S: Yes it can…
S: You came back in 71 to continue your career, but you also got married in 71 L: Yes! I think my reason for coming back to Hong Kong because my boyfried, whom later became my husband, thought it was time to get married S: Where did u meet? In Hong Kong or in Japan? L: In HK! S: You already knew each other before going to Japan? L: Yes! Yes! S: Dated for how long before getting married? L: Dated? I don’t think it was long, just over a year maybe S: Over a year and then decided to get married? L: Well, he’s the only son in the family, and at the time we thought it was necessary S: Did you think you were too young to get married? L: Not really! In that generation people got married in their 20’s, maybe now people would have to consider a lot more before getting married. Majority in the 20’s S: But in the entertainment business, you don’t want to let people know you’re dating, but you got married when you’re career was rising, did you think about the career aspect? L: I did not consider. I feel that I do what is right when the timing is right. Work is part of your life and you do need to have a family S: Then, your then husband… L: Yes, Mr. Lau S: Mr Lau, what was it that attracted you to him? L: I felt that he had a career, and he respects females, his family were very good, they loved me. Respectful, I think respect is really important S: In what ways? L: He respects you, lets you continue with your career, at home he also respects you. Even though I don’t have to do the housework, a lot of the times he would hope that you do what you can do, like a housewife. And he was very good towards my family S: If so good, then why separate? L: It’s him whose good, I’, not good! Because I placed all my time in my work, overworking!At that time, career was developing well with TVB delegating responsibilities to me, I had to work hard! Ha ha S: Was it him who decided or was it you who decided on the divorce? L: It was me S: Was there anything that happened that made you decide it was time to separate? L: I think firstly was because of my workload. Secondly, my other relationship, Mr Ho Sau Sun, and that had some effect. And I felt that I was not able to give my all towards the family. I always feel that if one gets married they should try and manage the family well.If the wife is not home all the time and always out working, even though my mother-in-law is very nice, she never complained, but at first she didn’t like it! At first, I remember Leung Wai Man asked me to film “私戀” , I had to ask my mother-in-law first, I said only filming for one day during the week, but she wasn’t too happy about it because it was a Sunday, I can’t remember, I think it was a Sunday. Working on CNY, she definitely didn’t like it because my mother-in-law’s status was high up, relatives and friends had to give tea to her for CNY and I was at work, and then finally she felt OK, she let me do it. So does that not mean I was bad?! S: So you lived with your mother-in-law? L: Lived together! I respect elders and she was loving towards me. S: Did you ever think of having kids? L: Actually, at the beginning of my marriage I did fall pregnant, however, later had a miscarriage, and thereafter never had any. I never said I didn’t want to have but later felt the responsibility was so big so never planned on having any S: You saidbecause you had a second relationshipthat was areason… L: It did have some effects S: That second relationship, how did it start? L: I think it was because of work we had more contact with each other… S: A lot.. L: A lot more! Each week…We were working on YET. I remember I had at the most 3 days a week. Sometimes there were outdoor trips which resulted in us having lots to talk about and having a good impression S: What did you admire about Ho Sau Sun? L: I felt he was well-eductated, was good at talking, presenting shows he was always calm, I felt he was very good-looking! S: Really? L: Really! S&L: HAHAHAHA! L: He was mature! S: He still is.. L: I’ve not seen him in a long time! S: HAHA L: I think everyone has their own goods, not a matter of age! S: So it was because of that, you had more contact L: Yes! S: Some feelings developed L: Yes! S: After divorcing, did you think about taking your relationship with Ho further? L: It was strange! Because we never got to the stage where we thought about getting married. It felt like there was pressure. Maybe because when we started the relationship it wasn’t good timing. I hadn’t got divorced and he had still carried the name, but even though he said he had already moved out of the family homebut I may be conservative and maybegot too involved I forgot. But getting back to reality, if we both didn’t have our other halves, the relationship could have developed better and could have resulted in a happier relationship. S: How did it eventually end? L: He immigrated and at first we still kept in contact and slowly died down. What made him immigrate is all down to the things that happened to him and I certainly have some feelings S: Are you still friends when you meet each other? L: Yes. I feel that we used our hearts to become friends. Not having to “he-he ha-ha” and in the end we did talk a lot of things that were personal so I think it is hard for us to continue being friends. S: Thinking back, ever thought the second relationship never occurred? L: I don’t think there is going back. But I feel this is life as such. Life will have many roads, from birth to death, and in the middle there will be something or another so there is no escape. If this doesn’t happen, something else will happen. So whatever has happened has happened, it’s all down to you to deal with it S: Then, this shows you have made mistakes with your relationships L: Definitely yes. S&L: HA HA HA S: Now its your third relationship L: I think this relationship, you must be talking about Law KY S: You have another which is not Law KY is ok!ha ha ha L: Have a few!ha ha ha S: Really? Then I want to hear! Before Law KY L: Those, will talk about them later. I think… S: In the same business or outsider? L: Both S: Wah! Both! L: Yes! I’ve met a lot of really good friends! At the present time, I think it’s come to another stage and we’re really good friends. But if you talk about marriage, we’re scared! Because being single for so long, trying to adapt to another person under the same roof, I feel it’s quite difficult. Just thinking about it can be quite scary. Isn’t it? He may be able to give into me, I may not be able to give into him, moreover, we’re of that age, what reason is there for me to give into you? Isn’t that right? S: You can be under the same roof… L: Two rooms S: Right L: Then what’s the point in being in the same house? S: Don’t know! Makes it look like the relationship has established closely. If he went first, his properties and belongings go to you. You go first it goes to him. Ha ha! L: It is not a question of money because today you won’t know what happens tomorrow. Money, he doesn’t look at it like that and neither do I. If we have less of it, we’ll spend less. Cant afford famous brands, then wear some domestic brand, it’s still OK! Most important is to see if one has fame. Those clothes are just part of decoration S: Right! That’s why discussing the contract with ah jie is very good because with TVB is about heart and not money! L: But everytime when the general managers discuss contracts they always say “Liza, our company’s expenses are so big! As a general manager I feel awkward discussing your contract, I don’t want to do this but this is how it’s calculated, I’m just representing the company. The accounts department needs to explain to the shareholders” S: This is not me is it? L: So far you haven’t S&L: HA HA HA HA
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Post by SOLY on Sept 18, 2006 20:06:32 GMT 6
Aiiiiii, thanksssssssssssssssssssss haha, want more. I like it, when she said she's bad. It shows that she's honest, hehe. Might not be true, but at least she admitted it, hehe. A good person always think oneself is bad, hehe, so we can correct oneself to become a better one, lol Anyway, we used to think if Ho was the reason of her divorce. So we know now, hehe. (Bad Ho, hehe) No Mr Ho, no Mr Law, lol (don't u think so?) Wow, her relationship with Ho started b4 her divorce? aiii is it a disloyal act toward her husband? I thought she's still with Ho in 1987, and I heard tat she started with Mr Law in 1988. I thought it's already fast. But still got few more b4 Mr Law?? hehe Wow Liza is open now, hehe Wanna know, hehe. Anyway, I don't understand when she talk about her relation with Mr Law.
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Post by wendysys on Sept 19, 2006 9:18:40 GMT 6
haha...S, I knew you would make some comments on this part. about those before Law KY, I think she said they didn't last long.
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Post by SOLY on Sept 19, 2006 12:01:08 GMT 6
haha, mustn't last long. Wonder who are they, hehe. Wendy! u know me well, haha.
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Post by *~J~* on Sept 19, 2006 12:39:58 GMT 6
K! haha, there's no need to give me credit. compared to what you have translated..... haha.. it's like comparing a grain of sand and Mt Everest!
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Post by ^K^ on Sept 19, 2006 16:01:36 GMT 6
well...siu siu help doe hai help...doe hai need to credit u ge...
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